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The problem i am going to be faced with is that there is no way i am going to get to 10k but I have so many tokens that since rovio will not allow them to roll over that i can get the sparks and waste 4k-5k sparks or I can spend 1,000 gems or so and get another TF I will not use.

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@mehh that was probably me. All i was trying to point out is that to me it seems like purchasing the character in the beginning would be better off than spending a bunch of gems to recharge to get to over 100k each day. Now there is always circumstances that make that not possible like in your case an error, i know some players have a crazy amount of gems built up, or maybe you just want to be No. 1. I was just saying if you are buying gems to recharge and using more than 200 gems a day then you would save $$ by just buying the TF bundle because you get the TF, 20k sparks, and the tail accessory, and again that is assuming you are spending $$ to get your gems. I am not sure if some people are thinking i was bashing people that buy gems or buy the bundles but i am not. I was also not trying to say if you are going to use gems to recharge you should just save them and spend 5k gems to get the TF at the end or even spending a few gems at the end of the event to get the TF was dumb, which is probably what i will do. I am sorry if my opinion upset everyone but it is just my opinion and it is just a game.

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@werehamsta I guess my “righteous indignance” must have offended you some how since you singled out my quotes and not everyone else that keeps complaining about this event and the constant events. first your 5,000 gems is *not* what i was referring to. I was reffering to the fact for $30 you can go buy 1500 gems waaay less than your 5000 gems. so 1500 gems divided by a 7 day event is 214 gems per day. which i may be wrong because i never counted only gets you 5-6 recharges which for some of these people getting scores of 100k-200k since there is no bonus squad i would assume have to be spending recharging that many times. So why recharge that many times when they offered the new TF for $30 in the beginning and for at least 2 days plus you got a ton of sparks and an accessory. So once you take that into account your 214 gems a day you are getting a lot less than your real $$ would have got you in the beginning. Of course using gems in the end is going to be more expensive than playing that is why they offer the special TF packages in the beginning.

As for the constant events read the rest of the forum. I am not the only one getting tired of this. I was trying to point out that for a beginner this game has to be like standing at the base of a mountain that you cannot see the top. Some people would enjoy the climb but some people are going to say screw it and go find another game they can get a sense of completion out of.

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This event has me sitting here thinking who in their right mind would even think about starting to play this game today. you start and you got 26 TFs to get to level 15 and then you got 20 TF to get from events but inorder to get those you got to promote the origonal 26 TFs you got to get a good bonus. then once you get the event TF you got to pomote them and upgrade them. The whole time dealing with rovio’s screw ups and bugs. Then you have to get all the energinocons. You also have to collect sparks and there is no break in events just one after another after another after another. The every event if you do not get enough tokens to get anything you got to start over next event with nothing. I mean that doesn’t even sound like a fun game that sounds like a second job where you hit yourself in the head with a hammer all day that you do not get paid to do.

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The thing i do not get is all these high scorers are using gems and assuming they do not have a massive stock piles of gems why not just pay the $30 and get scorponok in the first two days? I mean if you pay for the gems the amounts they have to be spending would more than pay for scorponok. This whole even seems designed to eat up everyones gem stock and get you to spend real $$. I have only see a few crazy scores in my leaderboard but I am also lucky to get a run over 1000 before bonus. I always assumed the levels where the same for every player but from what some discuss on this board everyone gets different levels. Some talk about getting 3-4 unicrons per day but i am lucky to see him or boss pig once a day.

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@optimuspig i have been getting a lot of 400-500 through this whole event. I have also go some 1000-1500. is it just me or do these runs seem shorter than usual and less stuff in them. The majority of runs i have had are closer to the 400-500 range i think.

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@millforce2k apple. i just did my 4 runs and average 1300 points each with a 125% bonus and got boss pig twice. So assuming no big score levels the best you can hope for if you play every hour and not spend gems to recharge is about 31200 points each day which is good for 800 tokens. If you finish 2nd or 3rd everyday that would get you another 3500 tokens and your 800 tokens will land you right about 9,000 tokens just shy of the new TF. So looks to me if you want the new TF rovio expects you to fork over some $$ or gems either way more $$ for them.

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These yellow blocks better be worth a lot I am not sure if getting past lvl 6 or 7 per day is possible without playing 24/7 or spending gems. So then you would have to finish 2nd or 3rd every day just to afford the new TF and what i used him as a buddy he was not worth 10k tokens. Scorponok is $29.99 on mine @millforce2k maybe Rovio doesn’t like you and figure you will pay a little more, lol just kidding.

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Whoever would have guess another event. The bonus squad is the new squad so no one has any of those TF unless you buy Scorponok for $$. Does anybody think that is just a coincident, lol.

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my deadend has the wizard hat but no other hat since this event started. He has it even in the barracks. So does my e. lockdown but not the regular.

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It couldn’t be totally random. each level would have to preset for all players. Otherwise some people might get the short end of the stick because they keep getting useless TF like starscream on big runs or every run. I do think the game choosing the TF and energonicon you use would be a very interesting event. especially if you get bumble bee and ghost on a unicron. I suggested something similar in a different post but not for event but for something like the spark run.

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This may be dumb but i got an idea to make pigs, coins, and energoniocon usefull all in one and give us another desperately needed source of sparks. It would be a one time a day thing like the spark run except the game choose at random from your TFs & energons. it then gives you maximum score you can get on the run and you use your coins and pigs to estimate how well you are going to do. Then the percentage you were right is mutliplied times the total run score and you are give that amount of sparks. To keep people from low balling if you go over your estimate the bottoms drops out real quick or they could make it so you get nothing to keep people from price is righting it. They may not be able to give you 1 spark for 1 pig or 1 coin because some runs would 2,0000 to 3,000 points and they are not going to give us that many sparks but some kind of exchange rate could be figured out. I would gladly welcome another source for 200-500 sparks a day. Rovio could even do the recharge like the spark run so they get there $$ too.

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I have about six that are 15 and the rest are 14. So i am working on the 15. So naturally it is time to up the level because it happened to me the same way when they uped it from 10 to 15. Talk about a let down. I almost had the satisfaction of being done upgrading and then the rug got pulled out. I would pay extra to upgrade faster maybe that is what lewis refers to. I would pay 2x the coins if it cut the upgrade time by 50%.

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YAH more TF upgrades we all know how much fun and exciting that is. The only thing i can think of that is more entertaining is watching paint dry.

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@asen I think the 4x bot bonus it probably to get people to try and use the sqaud they have designated. Most leader boards i have seen are dominated by e. grimlock or deadend. There have been a few oddballs like soundwave, nemesis prime, or ultimate megatron. So this 4x squad bonus reward the players that are not just promoting a few TFs or players that have bought every spark they can buy and have most of their Tfs promoted to a decent level.

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Also still no token carry over. I got some TF to upgrade to level 15 and that is 7,000 tokens. I hate to see what some of the overpower cost. Rovio really need to let tokens carry over that way we can have a stock pile like we have coins and pigs. Maybe they would atleast let 50% from each event carry over.

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I think everyone, except rovio, would agree the first priority should be fixing the game. I would like to see new areas too. I also think some, anything to use all the coins and pigs that is worth wild would be great. Maybe even something that makes all the energoniocon usefull I only use the glassor and strikebot only to complete challenges. Sadly none of this generates money for rovio.

As for level 20 TS is that really not what the overpower transformers are? I think you are more likely to see level 20 or 25 TS and 10 old TS with new paint jobs before you will likely see an new level or anything worth while.

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I just checked the new and they are giving everyone 2,000 tokens for their trouble.

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@SnTrooper there is a long list of useless characters. ultra magnus, bumble bee, galvatron, and starscream in my opinion at the top. their weapons are so weak they do nothing or they take so long to cool down you cannot get anything done. It seems like they keep nerfing the old transformers so you will get the new ones so you can actually do something in the game.

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@zeppled the forced adds cause a problem of there own. Since that last big crash where no one could get the game to start sometimes when i start a run the pre-run add will not start until astrotrain lands and ur trasformer comes out. So while you are watching the longest ad possible my bot is getting smashed. I have actually got through the ad only to find out my bot was dead. The game is supposed to pause if this happens but I have hit pause a few times and you will get the pause screen but the run continues. I just marked it up to the long list of glitches rovio doesn’t care about fixing.

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I had two different amounts of tokens I had about 750 showing on the exchange and and a little over 2000 showing on the event screen. I wake up and now i have 750 showing in both. This is a joke. Does Rovio even test these events before they start them. They keep making changes instead of fixing stuff and screwing everyone over.

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It seem like it is the fate of most good games. the designers get greedy and feel they got to keep making changes, adding stuff, and one live event after another. They refuse to let people just play the game. Look at how many new characters they they have added in a short time, then added sparks, the spark run, the overpower, the new blocks, and they are now coming out with a new grimlock soon. These events are getting tiresome, just as soon as the token exchange closes the next event goes live. They keep upping the tokens required to get stuff and make it harder to get those tokens. I understand they are just not going to give you everything but this just seems like they are desperate for $$.

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I got the same thing 16k to 180k for 500 tokens on IOS. I guess i will not be getting any more tokens. This game is getting to be a joke really quick. It seems Rovio only wants you to play if you are going to spend $$.

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From what i see of the score boards eveyone plays with energon grimlock and either deadend, soundwave, or soundblaster. energon grimlock makes quick worm of the big bosses. Then the other character is for blocks. From what i seen most players do not even bother with the bonus squad. If you sink all sparks into two players you can get a pretty good bonus. Then if those two players can destroy almost every block you can do pretty good. Then it is just time. In the event of a single bot event i use soundblaster for about 5-7 runs then energon grimlock until the big boss comes around. I have done ok i have every bot and most accessories with exception of deadend, which i refuse to pay for. it seams if you get all the tokens from the daily challenge and all the tokens from the daily achievements and then get at atleast 200 on the score board you should be able to get the new character.

I personally think sparks are the worst thing to happen to the game. Like i said most players do not even seem to bother with the bonus squad and use the same two bots for every single event. Before sparks i would get 1st almost every round and when i didn’t was because i wasn’t able to play that day. I would spend a few gems i got from lab farming but no real money. Now i takes gems everytime to even get 200-300 tokens. I understand that rovio wants to make money but they are also going to loose a lot of players that cannot make it anywhere or get any new bots in the events because of the new system. I think this could be fixed by letting tokens roll over each event. Then new players can save up to get new bots.